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  1. #1
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    The Waffle Opener

    I should probably start with a few quick notes about this opener and its origins. I wrote this one out about a month ago and have been field testing the shit out of it ever since… and it's gone over shockingly well. Also I wrote it in a slightly different mindset (as a female PUA with a male target) however, I could vouch that it can work the other way around since I have successfully used it to open mixed sets with more women than men. The structure is very loosely based on Style’s Jealous Girlfriend Opener. Any feedback/comments/insults are highly appreciated, of course.

    “Hey guys, my friends and I are having this debate about how men and women think and we need a third opinion. (The response is usually along the lines of “Okay” or “Go on”). So, arguably, the biggest problem with women is that they have no idea how men’s brains work. (Guys in the set will sometimes interject something like “Amen to that” and/or glare pointedly at someone. This is a line I would probably change if you have a female target to sympathize with the women more).

    So what we’ve finally agreed is this: Women’s brains are like pancakes, when you pour syrup on pancakes, it, for the most part, flows whichever way it chooses in any direction. There may be syrup soaked through parts of the pancake, but not others and there’s usually plenty of syrup not even on the pancake, but on the plate. (I usually pause here and ask a question for confirmation of what I’ve just said) Alternatively, men’s brains work more like waffles, when you pour syrup on a waffle, it stays contained within the different divots in the waffles. Some of those divots are filled completely, some only partially, and others are completely empty. The fun is that you never quite know which divot of thought he’s in until you talk to him.

    So what do you think? Is that accurate?”

    I'm still iffy on the ending question because I'm not quite happy with how it sounds, but I decided to share it anyway so that, if nothing else, we can all appreciate that there are in fact some women out there actually trying to understand men better (shocking, I know).


  2. #2
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    I honestly think the opener is thought provoking and can definitely work, especially with women. My only critique would be to condense the opener. Remember, you want to get off of the opener as soon as possible and stack forward.


  3. #3
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    And move forward with purpose.


  4. #4
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    first off i commend you for your efforts

    now to the critical part, without criticizing your opener i encourage you to set up a measure that will help you critique yourself......since numbers don't lie

    do the opener 100 times

    how many times does the opener result in an interaction with a tangible outcome?
    - phone number
    -instant date
    -kiss or other physcial outcome

    for any newbie reading this, i would not try anything that is not proven

    first let the author come back with specific results / metrics before you consider using this

    Jamie
    Director of Operations / Coach
    “Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.”
    ― Bruce Lee
    “As one advances, one does not accumulate but eliminate. The height of cultivation is really nothing special. It is merely simplicity; the ability to express the utmost with the minimum. The more complicated and restricted the method, the less opportunity for expression of one’s original sense of freedom. Though they play an important role in the early stage, the techniques should not be too mechanical, complex, or restrictive. It we cling blindly to them, we shall eventually become bound by their limitations.” - also....Mr. Bruce Lee

  5. #5
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    Thanks for the input! I have been testing it and it works really well in most sets (I think it's also equally popular between genders because, let's be honest, neither gender fully understands the other).

    I am noticing that every once in a while someone's comments will imply confusion over the opener and I'll end up awkwardly trying to explain a part of it. And suddenly it's no longer a routine stack, but a psychology class.

    This doesn't happen a lot though and it's never the target that gets confused, it's always that one girl (ocassionaly a guy) that thinks that her tits will shrink if she uses her brain. (Not trying to be mean but it's a little true.) How do you deal with a set that has a person like that?


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